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Learning and Skills Councils: Opportunities for the Voluntary Sector
NCVO, Regents Wharf, All Saints Street, London
Monday 20th March 2000.

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Acknowledgements

For the London Region seminar

The planning and delivery of this event was undertaken on behalf of NIACE and the WEA by Cheryl Turner (Development Officer, NIACE) and Michael Freeston (Education Officer, WEA).

Particular acknowledgement needs to be given to the hard work of administrative staff of both organisations, especially Philippa Cattell, Averil Coutinho and Vera Tunçel, for ensuring the smooth running of the event.

NIACE and the WEA gratefully acknowledge the support of Ben Kernighan, (National Council for Voluntary Organisations) who contributed to the presentations at the London event.

66 participants registered to attend the event. Representatives of the Government Office Local Learning Partnerships, voluntary groups and 'umbrella' organisations attended. This spread of experience and knowledge ensured that participants’ contributions, both in the discussion groups and plenary sessions were lively and informative.

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Issues Raised by participants

At the London Region seminar

bulletThe boundaries of the London LSCs make little sense in terms of existing relationships and networks
bulletWill LSCs go for big providers only?
bulletWill there be an automatic transfer from personnel involved in TECs to the new LSCs
bulletThe current experience of the Voluntary Sector with LLPs is ‘pretty bad’ overall
bulletIt is important that the Voluntary Sector is involved in the drawing up of learning plans by local authorities. These are being written by the Autumn of 2000
bulletWill LSCs only work with a list of ‘approved’ suppliers?
bulletThe standards of staff development must not act to exclude people or provider organisations. The Sector must ensure that appropriate standards are put in place e.g. through PAULO.
bulletWill the quality criteria be essential and appropriate?
bulletThere appears to be a contradiction between the stated stability of funding for existing providers and a desire for the system to be open to new players.
bulletThe role of the 10-15% non-formula funding will be crucial in encouraging participation of small providers.
bulletAdult and community learning should not just receive funding from the 10-15% non-tariff element.
bulletCouncils should link to local income generation for local community suppliers. This raises the issue of whether or not local bodies are the most appropriate to be working with.
bulletThere is a need for flexibility in Voluntary Sector choices.
bulletA key issue for London is membership in terms of constituencies of LLSC and the size of membership.
bulletThere is little difference in the money available under the new system. Will this predominantly be for 16-19 year old provision?
bulletWho will decide on the quality standards affecting the Voluntary Sector.
bulletThere is a continued need for capacity building and to protect what is already happening.
bulletContinuity of funding is needed.
bulletSmall voluntary bodies need to build on existing networks. Consortia and partnerships may well be necessary.
bulletThe question of how the Sector is suitably ‘represented’ is important. This may well be the role of CVSs.
bulletThere will need to be extra resourcing to enable this representation to happen.
bulletThe role of non-accredited training and learning must be recognised in LSC provision.
bulletLSC funds need to match with other widening participation funds e.g. SRB, new deal, etc.
bulletNon-accredited learning assessment systems must be developed.
bulletThe Voluntary Sector should welcome the proposed unified quality system.
bulletHow will the proposed funding system link with or resemble the existing load-banding arrangements.
bulletThe opportunity of direct access to LSC funds for the Voluntary Sector is welcome.
bulletThere is a need for the Voluntary Sector to have access to Standards Fund and Capital Fund.
bulletWhat new money will be available in relation to more bidders?
bulletThere is a need for unified admin between LSC, ESF and SRB. Will this be a reality?
bulletThere is a need for adults with mental health issues to be involved in the scheme.
bulletThere is concern that the larger players will dominate and, if so, what are the implications for the small organisations? Hard to confront.
bulletThere is concern related to the lack of co-ordination with other sub-regional structures, e.g. Ufi.
bulletThere is concern that LSCs will be able to apply and sub-contract directly for ESF?
bulletInterim arrangements - Franchisees are particularly vulnerable at the moment. Are they being tied into longer term contracts?
bulletWhat will happen to Ufi ‘hubs’ and what are the franchise arrangements via FE colleges as lead bodies?
bulletHow to demonstrate and measure ‘distance travelled worth of non-accredited learning and ‘early steps’ - without pressure?
bulletCan Quality Assurance be tailored to small organisations?
bulletHow will the element on ‘disadvantage’ in the formula work in practice?
bulletLondon Boroughs are being encouraged to link together to ensure ‘regeneration’, therefore this is a big issues for more disparate Voluntary Sectors.
bulletThere is concern that the 10-15% non-formula funding will be a token element.
bulletThe Sector is beginning to suffer from ‘initiative fatigue’.
bulletIt is important that LSCs recognise the importance of first step provision. This often acts as a motivating factor and gives learners incentive to study further.
bulletLSCs need to provide resources to the Voluntary Sector to help build its capacity.
bulletHow many difference QA systems will voluntary organisations be required to meet? Picasso and more?
bulletImportance of applying Voluntary Sector ‘compact’ to the world of training and education - particularly for organisations with multiple funders - to avoid too many difference quality standards.
bulletWhat will be the distinctive place of community groups rather than voluntary organisations is the new structures.
bulletIt is importance that the Sector achieves representation at National LSC level as well as local LSC level.

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Summary of participant evaluations

At the London Region seminar

From the forms returned the ratings for this event were: 6 very good, 17 good and 2 satisfactory. Overall, the written comments were positive and spoke favourably about the clear structure of the programme and the balance between presentations, discussion and feedback, the informal, friendly atmosphere and free flow and open character of the comments, the documentation before and during the event, the fact that it was clearly for voluntary bodies and included a number of grass-roots organisations, and the richness of the plenary discussions due to the diverse experience and knowledge of the participants.

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